Comments on: The librarian is dead. Long live the librarian. http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:45:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: [Kurz] Die/der Bibliothekar(in) ist tot … lang lebe die/der Bibliothekar(in) - Bibliothekarisch.de - ehemals Chaoslinie.de http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-900 [Kurz] Die/der Bibliothekar(in) ist tot … lang lebe die/der Bibliothekar(in) - Bibliothekarisch.de - ehemals Chaoslinie.de Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:14:11 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-900 [...] Sameer Vasta: The librarian is dead. Long live the librarian. via [...] […] Sameer Vasta: The librarian is dead. Long live the librarian. via […]

]]> By: Tonight’s party is hosted by your local public library | Eloquation http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-899 Tonight’s party is hosted by your local public library | Eloquation Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:51:52 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-899 [...] to party at Club Lauinger.” Sure, we were being facetious at the time, but in light of the changing role of the library and the librarian, I think that statement may not be far from the [...] […] to party at Club Lauinger.” Sure, we were being facetious at the time, but in light of the changing role of the library and the librarian, I think that statement may not be far from the […]

]]> By: Sameer Vasta http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-891 Sameer Vasta Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:07:32 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-891 Wow, that's a lot of anger Mel. I shared this comment with some people at <a href="http://onebiglibrary.yorku.ca/index.php?title=Main_Page" rel="nofollow">One Big Library</a> yesterday, and there were some nods of agreement. I think there is a conscious feeling in the library community that changes need to be made. So let's hope for the best! Wow, that’s a lot of anger Mel. I shared this comment with some people at One Big Library yesterday, and there were some nods of agreement. I think there is a conscious feeling in the library community that changes need to be made. So let’s hope for the best!

]]> By: mel http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-892 mel Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:27:28 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-892 Librarians ARE killing our libraries! The have become "gate keepers" rather than information advocates. They no longer want the "physical presence" in libraries but rather deal with cyber/email reference inquiries. They are not knowlegeable in book contents but seek book reviewers. They are trained to be cataloguers, bibliographers not wholistic and cultural enablers. Librarians ARE killing our libraries!
The have become “gate keepers” rather than information advocates.
They no longer want the “physical presence” in libraries but rather deal with cyber/email reference inquiries.
They are not knowlegeable in book contents but seek book reviewers.
They are trained to be cataloguers, bibliographers not wholistic and cultural enablers.

]]> By: Sameer Vasta http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-894 Sameer Vasta Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:55:19 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-894 Thanks Lara! I'm quite fascinated by libraries and librarians and the whole domain of information management. Maybe I should go to grad school for it... =) Thanks Lara! I’m quite fascinated by libraries and librarians and the whole domain of information management. Maybe I should go to grad school for it… =)

]]> By: Lara Kretler http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-893 Lara Kretler Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:49:40 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-893 Great post, which I'll be forwarding along to several friends in grad school for library science! Great post, which I’ll be forwarding along to several friends in grad school for library science!

]]> By: Sameer Vasta http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-895 Sameer Vasta Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:47:39 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-895 Oh, and Karim, glad you're liking Firefox. Curious about what you mean by lack of speed though...new benchmarks show that Firefox 3 is considerably faster than IE (FF 2 crawled and was incredibly slow, but FF3 is a huge improvement). I'm wondering if it might be some system settings on your end that might be slowing down your browsing experience on FF. <a href="http://lifehacker.com/396048/speed-testing-the-latest-web-browsers" rel="nofollow">Here's an article that speed tests all the current big browsers.</a> Do note that they used FF 3 RC 3 instead of the official version for this test, so the new FF 3 (the official release version) may have very slightly faster speeds. Oh, and Karim, glad you’re liking Firefox. Curious about what you mean by lack of speed though…new benchmarks show that Firefox 3 is considerably faster than IE (FF 2 crawled and was incredibly slow, but FF3 is a huge improvement).

I’m wondering if it might be some system settings on your end that might be slowing down your browsing experience on FF.

Here’s an article that speed tests all the current big browsers. Do note that they used FF 3 RC 3 instead of the official version for this test, so the new FF 3 (the official release version) may have very slightly faster speeds.

]]> By: Sameer Vasta http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-896 Sameer Vasta Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:40:04 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-896 Hmmm...perhaps I didn't elucidate well enough in the post. As you both write in your comments, the librarian definitely has a role in the physical institution of the library. In fact, alluded it to the fact that I'd be talking about that in another post later this week. What I was trying to say is that the information management and collection role of the librarian is being marginalized by the web. Librarians go to school not to learn how to recommend good books, but how to understand queries, filter information, and manage immense amounts of data. Some people think that this information and research role is now being assumed by online tools and niche experts. My argument above was that librarians, with their increased access to resources both digital and in print, and with their expertise and experience, should be the ones responsible of creating and filtering that data on the web as well. I guess most people still think of the librarian as the keeper of the library -- having done some work with librarians in the past, I've discovered that their physical presence in the building is but a small part of their actual role. It's that other stuff (outside the 'library keeper' role) I was trying to bring out in this post. Hmmm…perhaps I didn’t elucidate well enough in the post. As you both write in your comments, the librarian definitely has a role in the physical institution of the library. In fact, alluded it to the fact that I’d be talking about that in another post later this week.

What I was trying to say is that the information management and collection role of the librarian is being marginalized by the web. Librarians go to school not to learn how to recommend good books, but how to understand queries, filter information, and manage immense amounts of data. Some people think that this information and research role is now being assumed by online tools and niche experts.

My argument above was that librarians, with their increased access to resources both digital and in print, and with their expertise and experience, should be the ones responsible of creating and filtering that data on the web as well.

I guess most people still think of the librarian as the keeper of the library — having done some work with librarians in the past, I’ve discovered that their physical presence in the building is but a small part of their actual role. It’s that other stuff (outside the ‘library keeper’ role) I was trying to bring out in this post.

]]> By: karim kanji http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-897 karim kanji Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:12:10 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-897 Hey! The Librarian is still alive! I regularly go to my local public library to access books, books on cd, as well as the latest and not so latest in DVD and VHS movies. And guess who I constantly speak with? Ms. Librarian! (Librarian almost always seem to be of the female variety - although I am not complaining!) I could use the library's online functions but I find the conversation with the lady behind the desk to be more stimulating and gratifying. While reserving material I can also obtain valuable information and insight. "Did you like Mr. & Mrs. Smith? What about the Planet Earth series?" So, in my eyes, the Library and it's gatekeeper - the Librarian, are alright in my book. Pun intended. Karim P.S. Vasta - I'm using Firefox exclusively at work. Love the virtual spell check and smart search bar. Don't love the lack of speed. Oh yeah, love this article! KK Hey!

The Librarian is still alive! I regularly go to my local public library to access books, books on cd, as well as the latest and not so latest in DVD and VHS movies. And guess who I constantly speak with? Ms. Librarian! (Librarian almost always seem to be of the female variety - although I am not complaining!)

I could use the library’s online functions but I find the conversation with the lady behind the desk to be more stimulating and gratifying. While reserving material I can also obtain valuable information and insight. “Did you like Mr. & Mrs. Smith? What about the Planet Earth series?”

So, in my eyes, the Library and it’s gatekeeper - the Librarian, are alright in my book.

Pun intended.

Karim

P.S. Vasta - I’m using Firefox exclusively at work. Love the virtual spell check and smart search bar. Don’t love the lack of speed.

Oh yeah, love this article!

KK

]]> By: Rajio http://itellstories.org/2008/06/24/the-librarian-is-dead/#comment-898 Rajio Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:37:52 +0000 http://eloquation.com/?p=473#comment-898 I remember occasionally being overwhelmed at the library but the librarians helping me find what i needed (an sometimes what I didnt even know i wanted!) ... yes I can now search on my own, any even get reccomendations based on my current interests (a la last.fm) but who will point out new exciting stuff? who will help me with my technical issues? who will help guide me through my searches? who will give me insider tips? who will organize and regulate incoming new data/media? who will i feel embarassed to make eyecontact with when returning books late? the librarian, thats who. Sure I can search on my own but a guide always helps. I remember occasionally being overwhelmed at the library but the librarians helping me find what i needed (an sometimes what I didnt even know i wanted!) … yes I can now search on my own, any even get reccomendations based on my current interests (a la last.fm) but who will point out new exciting stuff? who will help me with my technical issues? who will help guide me through my searches? who will give me insider tips? who will organize and regulate incoming new data/media? who will i feel embarassed to make eyecontact with when returning books late? the librarian, thats who.

Sure I can search on my own but a guide always helps.

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